tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post5104547152771571669..comments2024-03-17T09:17:01.454+00:00Comments on Vic the Vicar!: Jesus is all you needVic Van Den Berghhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-85134903963046716652014-07-27T01:55:58.430+01:002014-07-27T01:55:58.430+01:00Never thought Bible could be seen as authoritative...Never thought Bible could be seen as authoritative when taken out of context and yet so many do to permit or deny when the reason for such is our own desire to do something ourselves or prevent others from doing.<br /><br />I think there is some merit in seeing it as the word of God (or better still God's word to us) but meet many who doubt inspiration, fallibility and the like and so struggle with it - some choosing to discount it for a 'new revelation' in today's context based on Jesus (but where they get the Jesus they base it on with out the Bible stumps me).<br /><br />It's all a bit Catch-22 innit :-) <br /><br />Happy Sunday - He is risen :-)<br /><br />and I'm going to bed!!!Vic Van Den Berghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-64414875881822903992014-07-26T15:42:56.189+01:002014-07-26T15:42:56.189+01:00What I think I'm trying to say is that I no lo...What I think I'm trying to say is that I no longer think there is such a thing as a "word of God" detached from a context, which is what many (most?) Evangelicals imply when they refer to the Bible as such (cf. "the Bible clearly teaches...").Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08007179587426831950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-40852976213257527252014-07-26T14:57:20.668+01:002014-07-26T14:57:20.668+01:00Understand where you're coming from - not that...Understand where you're coming from - not that fussed as long as we realise that the relationship of the living word (Logos) is made all the more (add your own word here) when taken with and supported by the written (logos) word.<br /><br />I don't think thetre's any Biblical support for Logos/logos (or Trinity) in the literal sense but the applied sense renders it adequate and beneficial.<br /><br />ThanksVic Van Den Berghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-80417505764034987752014-07-26T12:42:54.360+01:002014-07-26T12:42:54.360+01:00I agree with you insofar as the Bible provides the...I agree with you insofar as the Bible provides the necessary context for our knowledge and understanding of Jesus. Divorcing Jesus from the Hebrew scriptures leaves us with a construct of our own making.<br /><br />That said, I am nervous about calling the Bible "the word of God". A few months ago I did a search in the New Testament on the phrase "word of God". In only one instance was there an unambiguous reference to scripture. In every other case it was a reference to a much more dynamic concept. The "word of God/the Lord" appears to be a message that comes to a particular person or (more usually) a community or group in a specific situation via the Holy Spirit. This seems also to tie into the use of the phrase in the Hebrew scriptures.<br /><br />So, IMO, we may with the help of the Holy Spirit discern the word of God (to us) IN the Bible, but to refer to Bible itself (or its constituent texts) as "the word of God" in the undifferentiated way the phrase is so often used seems to be unsupported in the Bible.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08007179587426831950noreply@blogger.com