tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.comments2024-03-17T09:17:01.454+00:00Vic the Vicar!Vic Van Den Berghhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comBlogger4928125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-40757318723358476912024-03-17T09:17:01.454+00:002024-03-17T09:17:01.454+00:00Get your chasuble on. You’ve pulled.Get your chasuble on. You’ve pulled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-21974523167723891432024-01-08T18:39:17.162+00:002024-01-08T18:39:17.162+00:00First time reading much appreciate itFirst time reading much appreciate itFabian Vogelstellerhttps://medium.com/@frozemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-89575889101287004672023-11-24T10:03:51.643+00:002023-11-24T10:03:51.643+00:00I just want to say that whatever has happened I wi...I just want to say that whatever has happened I will be eternally grateful to Mark and his Team who led me into a life-changing and on-going relationship with my Father God. Andrew in ShetlandAndrew Harmsworthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-37703900044180000052023-10-08T00:46:56.790+01:002023-10-08T00:46:56.790+01:00Thaanks great blogThaanks great blogZampanohttps://sufferingcity.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-58852315041157296762023-05-23T00:15:40.214+01:002023-05-23T00:15:40.214+01:00Thank you for leading our service last Tuesday. Pl...Thank you for leading our service last Tuesday. Please don't ever describe yourself as 'average' - you bring great gifts. Barbara Mangles Sheffield WiF ChairmanBarbara Manglesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-44760265630624865062023-02-09T12:41:30.661+00:002023-02-09T12:41:30.661+00:00The article is not written strongly enough.
This ...The article is not written strongly enough.<br /><br />This is a CULT group. The arrogance, to claim "The Only Truth." The arrogance, to tell people who they can and cannot marry. The arrogance, to designate all of the rest of humanity as the background scenery for their own lives. The utter hubris of it.<br /><br />Some of the CULT members responding here are engaging in extensive lies. Plenty of expulsions, shunning, and family alienation are evident in this CULT group. When I fled the CULT, I was shunned by all of my relatives, including those closest to me. Twenty years later, they still shun me.<br /><br />Conformity is everything in this CULT. The application of lots of lipstick to the pig (CULT) is also par for the course.Alfred Serranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-10042352612605854152022-09-18T05:01:34.806+01:002022-09-18T05:01:34.806+01:00Magda Winthrop- I am glad that you managed to esca...Magda Winthrop- I am glad that you managed to escape from this cult minded sect. I also met a guy who did come to a Christian church group to listen and try to convert them to Christo's, but by engaging with them he himself left the CD's to attend Christian church, and he also understood how wrong these people are. May the Lord be with you in your progress in life.<br />EJKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-47493302174150903472022-09-04T23:33:26.632+01:002022-09-04T23:33:26.632+01:00Thank you Vic god bless you xpatThank you Vic god bless you xpatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-32272658123466609442022-08-17T00:24:00.118+01:002022-08-17T00:24:00.118+01:00Amen thank you Vic god bless you pat x Amen thank you Vic god bless you pat x Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-23934830852666884282022-06-16T12:57:47.590+01:002022-06-16T12:57:47.590+01:00When in doubt -- and this cult group should produc...When in doubt -- and this cult group should produce lots of them -- vote with your feet.<br /><br />Scamper away.Magda Winthropnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-28162866237097878912022-06-16T12:53:46.747+01:002022-06-16T12:53:46.747+01:00The Christadelphians (CDs) are a cult group. I sa...The Christadelphians (CDs) are a cult group. I say this after half a century of having been one. I fled when my sanity could no longer coexist with this oppressive, primitive, stale, and dehumanizing little cult. They offer no salvation, and they offer no "Truth." They offer only a living death, the opportunity not to be a full participant in your own life. In my experience, they are only charitable and loving initially -- to lure you inside -- and then most new adherents are regarded with indifference. Their "bible insights" are dreck. They regard the outside world with hostility. They support several traditional prejudices.<br /><br />You need this stuff like you need a new hole in your head.<br /><br />They are a trap. Go in the opposite direction, quickly and calmly but resolutely.Magda Winthropnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-39103052063963950072022-03-10T10:15:39.662+00:002022-03-10T10:15:39.662+00:00Same Regiment serving those around us in different...Same Regiment serving those around us in different times with the same God and the eternal hope made real for us in Jesus, the Christ, empowered by the power of the Spirit.<br /><br />Thank you for the reminder of this poem.<br /><br />PaxVic Van Den Berghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-52007369620031556582022-03-08T15:02:43.851+00:002022-03-08T15:02:43.851+00:00IF death be just a last long sleep,
Then death wer...IF death be just a last long sleep,<br />Then death were good, men say;<br />Yet say it knowing naught of sleep<br />Save light at dawn of day.<br /><br />For sleep's a blank--a nothingness,<br />A thing we cannot know;<br />We can but taste the streams of life<br />That from its fountain flow.<br /><br />When day puts off her gorgeous robes,<br />And darkness veils our sight,<br />Lest we should see her beauty laid<br />Upon the couch of night,<br /><br />We crave for sleep because we hold<br />A memory of morn,<br />The rush of life renewed, that with<br />The birth of day is born.<br /><br />So weary souls that crave for death,<br />As sweet and dreamless sleep,<br />As night when men may cease to war,<br />And women cease to weep,<br /><br />Are longing still for life--more life,<br />Their souls not yet sufficed,<br />Cry out for God's eternal streams;<br />They crave not death--but Christ.<br /><br />- Studdert Kennedy, "Death"Undergroundpewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-1408296447738192232021-11-17T07:59:24.071+00:002021-11-17T07:59:24.071+00:00This is grreatThis is grreatDrew Norrishttps://www.drewnorris.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-20578776022475190532021-11-15T02:11:52.711+00:002021-11-15T02:11:52.711+00:00Christadelphians look upon Christians as unbelieve...Christadelphians look upon Christians as unbelievers, the Truth is distorted as they say, trinity is a word I also don't like, Godhead is a better word to describe God, however they are mind controllers, as they are also obsessed with end times and Christ return. Focus is middle east and Israel, and most preaching and prophesy lies around that. John Thomas writes in his book Phanerosis that: there are not 3 in the Godhead nor are there 3 in manifestation....neverthless the Father is God and Jesus is God " because born of the Spirit, because God is Spirit " I think that view now might be suppressed by the group. It's been a while since I had any discussions with them about theology, except to say that they seem to think that " they are privileged to hold the key of knowledge to unlock the hidden secrets of the Bible ". Jesus did not existed from the beginning, He wasn't God, we Christians been mislead and when we die we won't be resurected because we didn't die in the truth. Actually once a CD guy said that he thought that Jesus might have sinned, and when Jesus comes back, He will perform animal sacrifices ??? I said to him that in Hebrew's 10:10 ...the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ, once for all time. He told me that I didn't know the whole truth. I don't know what to make of this cult minded sect. EJKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-54892462672850651202021-05-15T22:21:23.756+01:002021-05-15T22:21:23.756+01:00We've had no carpet on the stairs since before...We've had no carpet on the stairs since before I arrived at the clergy house because when it rains the stairs become a waterfall.<br /><br />The leaks get patched and the repair of one at the moment saw a visiting workman pinch some spare slates on the flat roof next to mt study and break a tile and cause the leak that has broken my computer :-(<br /><br />New rains but ...Vic Van Den Berghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-87425221131947164342021-05-15T07:14:01.318+01:002021-05-15T07:14:01.318+01:00 We have various leaks in our church roof, which t... We have various leaks in our church roof, which the rain today will find out. We have two skylights over our side Aisle with wooden frames which are rotted and need urgent repair. We had a grant to do the work, than Covid came.<br /><br />The grant has lapsed, so needs to be reapplied for. We have a potential builder who works on churches around the area, but he will need to erect specialist scaffolding to get to the roof to measure up the skylights and to have replacements made in keeping with the originals installed in 1850 when the church was built. The appearance of buckets strategically placed to catch leaks is a regular happening. We have been fortunate so far, that the leaks have not appeared elsewhere, there is one on the side Annex, which houses the Lady Chapel, but they have been there for years with buckets placed there on a permanent basis. <br /><br />I hope that your repairs can be made soon, as we want ours done when the summer really appears.UKViewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18114944341930758335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-78760198888996721582021-04-19T22:38:38.469+01:002021-04-19T22:38:38.469+01:00Thank you,
VThank you,<br /><br />VVic Van Den Berghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-38639833031875573172021-04-17T23:42:52.129+01:002021-04-17T23:42:52.129+01:00Good night, God bless.Good night, God bless.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07213335687152492108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-18654855502990961992021-03-05T15:18:53.597+00:002021-03-05T15:18:53.597+00:00Hi Bovril,
Thank you for your comments - always h...Hi Bovril,<br /><br />Thank you for your comments - always helpful to garner other views and perceptions.<br /><br />Pax<br /><br />Ps don't know about Marmite but love Bovril you I've had to go and make a mug of it now :-)Vic Van Den Berghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-26912545238358626042021-02-18T22:56:05.735+00:002021-02-18T22:56:05.735+00:00I’m not baptised but I’ve grown up in a Christadel...I’m not baptised but I’ve grown up in a Christadelphian family, made friends from and met members from all corners of the faith and still maintain a friendly relationship with the church. <br /><br />As has already been pointed out the only thing I consider outright incorrect about your description is the bit about considering Jesus a sinner or “fallen”. That honestly sounds completely antithetical to the values that anyone who calls themselves a Christadelphian would actually believe, if someone was to voice that belief they would find fellowship likely impossible to attain. Other things you mentioned like smoking, though incredibly rare (I’ve certainly known those who vape) are things I can believe you could occasionally encounter.<br /><br />If I was to emphasise any part of the description it would be the decentralised nature of the group as it often seems to be the most differing trait to other denominations. The effect of being so decentralised is, from my perspective, that which ever family (usually called a clan if it’s existed for many generations and among multiple ecclesias) in a given ecclesia will dominate the internal politics of that ecclesia. If a couple of people find their social/personal values too antagonised by that dominant family then they’ll just go to a different ecclesia, or start their own, who’s members values are more agreeable to them. Great! (Almost) Everyone gets to commune with people that are of similar disposition to them, but the trafe off to this being an inevitable feedback loop that can easily polarise the Christadelphians living in a certain region. It’s always thought it ironic that even with all the Christadelphians attempts to keep secular politics out of the group, the innate human values that form those politics still effect the church to the point that some ecclesias are explicitly referred to by others as “the conservative one” or “the liberal one” with a few relatively balanced ones in between. It is not unheard of for entire ecclesias to be disfellowshiped when these conflicts have caused significant issue, but it’s exceedingly rare. For the most part, and I expect this has something to do with the group actually being British in origin, members of differing persuasions will tolerate each other and still break bread with one another.<br /><br />One other thing about Christadelphians is that they have been known to quite quickly incorporate newly discovered groups of likeminded christians around the world, usually based on non trinitarian aspect of their faith. This happened at some point with a group in Germany and most recently with Christian asylum seekers arriving from Iran into the UK. As the commonly practiced form of christianity in Iran has never held trinitarian values it turned out that, other than the language gap, the beliefs were compatible enough that many were baptised into the church.Bovrilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08171498825930893202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-73114543788733974472021-02-17T07:05:06.044+00:002021-02-17T07:05:06.044+00:00Over and out.Over and out.Mr. Mcgranorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12851136550476241757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-7463340484108329062021-01-24T08:28:05.511+00:002021-01-24T08:28:05.511+00:00Hallelujah Amen!Hallelujah Amen!N Abramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06888108039248683428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-39071836619001796242020-12-29T10:53:10.420+00:002020-12-29T10:53:10.420+00:00Thanks - and a blessed Christmastide and safe and ...Thanks - and a blessed Christmastide and safe and happy New Year to you and yours.<br /><br />VVic Van Den Berghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581156515370131898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366621735995057721.post-27910611396701207832020-12-29T08:45:30.020+00:002020-12-29T08:45:30.020+00:00A safe and peaceful and hopefully healthy New year...A safe and peaceful and hopefully healthy New year to you and yours too Vic. Thanks for this year's blogged messages. Always read and appreciated, if not often commented on.Ray Barneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09209429097744326143noreply@blogger.com