Showing posts with label Trinity Sunday. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Trinity Sunday. Show all posts

Sunday, 11 June 2017

Can't make it to church - Sunday 11th June 2017

Today is 'Trinity Sunday. A day (more often than not) when the person standing up the front and doing the sermon seeks to show how little they understand the Trinity as they confuse their listeners over what the Trinity really is!

The Trinity causes real problems for some because the word is never used in the Bible and so, in their eyes, it's just not right!

Another bunch are going to struggle today becuase the explanation they will use is just plain wrong!
Here are a few wrong 'uns:
1. The Trinity is like a person, who is a son (or daughter), mother (or father), and a husband (or wife),
2. The Trinity is like and egg, which has a shell, a white, and a yolk,
3. The Trinity is like the sun, which also has light and heat,
4. The Trinity is like water, which is liquid, ice or steam,

The problem with the Trinity lies in the problem that what we have is ONE God, not three,and this God is of 'one substance' with three distinct natures or persons.
They are ALL THREE as the same time.
They are all the same substance.

Many of the explanations are modal. Yes, it's water, but it can only be one of the three states any any time. The same goes for the son, father, husband model. They operate in one mode at a time.

The egg, which is quite popular with many, is a real problem becuase whilst it is all, together, called 'egg' - it is made up of three different, and separate, part. One substance? Nah!

The sun explanation is even worse because the heat and light are products of it. This is like saying that God is the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit are created by Him. They are not equal, they are created by the Father.

It's about now that some of you will be looking to St Patrick and will be shouting, "God is green and has three leave!" Well first and foremost, this explanation is 'partialism' and many end up giving their audience three gods out of it! The good news is that, as I understand it, St Patrick never used this analogy - so there's a win!

Perhaps this little video might be of assistance - it's one of my favourites:



I like this because it got me thinking about ways of presenting the Trinity - after all, some will be preaching today that, "We don't need to understand the Trinity, we just need to accept and believe it!"

This is wrong teaching: As Christians we need to question, challenge and strive for understanding - after all, we don't leave our brains at the doors, do we?

And the readings? well they're not great defences of the Trinity but they are important.

The Gospel passage (what we call the 'Great Commission') tells Jesus' followers to 'get out there and make disciples' (not converts) 'in the name of the Father and Son and Holy Spirit' (phew, that's handy) - baptising them (that's the membership ritual) and teaching them to 'obey' Jesus' commands (something I find less and less of us doing - we all choose our own way!).

The 2 Corinthians passage is an ending - it calls on us to seek to build the Church (and it surely needs some restoration, doesn't it?) and for us to encourage one another in unity of mind - living in peace with each other.

What can we say about this passage other than the fact that I don't see too much of the stuff called for in the Church I often encounter. A house divided against itself cannot stand - could this be the reason we are doing so badly in some settings?

And if you're nodding - what are you (and me) going to do about it?

So we are left with he Isaiah passage - a promise that God will renew us, strengthening us and enabling us to do the stuff. Doesn't need much explanation this passage, does it?

If we keep God's commands, live and work in unity and make disciples - the strength (and everything else) we need to get the job done will be ours.

Now that's a promise to be claimed, innit?


The Collect
Holy God, faithful and unchanging: enlarge our minds with the knowledge of your truth, and draw us more deeply into the mystery of your love, that we may truly worship you, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, one God, now and for ever. Amen.



Isaiah 40.12-17,27-31
Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, or with the breadth of his hand marked off the heavens?
Who has held the dust of the earth in a basket, or weighed the mountains on the scales and the hills in a balance?
Who can fathom the Spirit[a] of the Lord, or instruct the Lord as his counselor?
Whom did the Lord consult to enlighten him, and who taught him the right way?
Who was it that taught him knowledge, or showed him the path of understanding?

Surely the nations are like a drop in a bucket; they are regarded as dust on the scales; he weighs the islands as though they were fine dust. Lebanon is not sufficient for altar fires, nor its animals enough for burnt offerings. Before him all the nations are as nothing; they are regarded by him as worthless and less than nothing.

Why do you complain, Jacob?
Why do you say, Israel, “My way is hidden from the Lord; my cause is disregarded by my God”?
Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom.
He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak.
Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall;
but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength.
They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

2 Corinthians 13.11-13
Finally, brothers and sisters, rejoice! Strive for full restoration, encourage one another, be of one mind, live in peace. And the God of love and peace will be with you.

Greet one another with a holy kiss.
All God’s people here send their greetings.

Matthew 28.16-20
Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go.
When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted.
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


Post Communion Prayer
Almighty and eternal God, you have revealed yourself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and live and reign in the perfect unity of love: hold us firm in this faith, that we may know you in all your ways and evermore rejoice in your eternal glory, who are three Persons yet one God, now and for ever. Amen.


Sunday, 15 June 2014

Can't Make it to Church - June 15

Here we are of a day of triple import as we:

i. celebrate 'Father's Day',

ii. celebrate Trinity Sunday (yes, I know the word's not in the Bible), and

iii. celebrate the resurrection (as we do every Sunday - that's why Sundays are not part of Lent)

Today is the day when the Church struggles to not only understand, but also explain,'The Trinity'. There will be explanations containing three leaf clovers, 'wife, mother and daughter', 'ice, stem and water' and so much more and by the close of play today - God will become modal, functional and mentally-ill - and nothing of merit will have been done!

So here's my remedy to all the madness for in the Trinity (three person's) we have:

God (the Father) - the author of life and reconciliation (salvation) to Him.

God (the Son) - the person who makes reconciliation with God real by His freewill offering of Himself to death on the Cross (FOR ALL).

God (the Holy Spirit) - lives in us, enabling and guiding us to to maintain that reconciled relationship and live in unity and peace with God and man.


And to put the cherry on the cake - the mediaeval Church would tell us that God is three persons - one substance but with three distinct personalities. I found a great graphic to show this and to help our understand - and again, it's all very simple.



The Collect
Holy God, faithful and unchanging:
enlarge our minds with the knowledge of your truth,
and draw us more deeply into the mystery of your love,
that we may truly worship you, Father, Son and Holy Spirit,
one God, now and for ever. Amen.


So here's the readings for today:

Isaiah 40.12-17,27-31
Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand and marked off the heavens with a span, enclosed the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales and the hills in a balance? 
Who has directed the spirit of the Lord, or as his counsellor has instructed him?
Whom did he consult for his enlightenment, and who taught him the path of justice?
Who taught him knowledge, and showed him the way of understanding? 

Even the nations are like a drop from a bucket, and are accounted as dust on the scales; see, he takes up the isles like fine dust.  Lebanon would not provide fuel enough, nor are its animals enough for a burnt-offering.  All the nations are as nothing before him; they are accounted by him as less than nothing and emptiness. 

Why do you say, O Jacob, and speak, O Israel,
‘My way is hidden from the Lord, and my right is disregarded by my God’? 

Have you not known? Have you not heard?
The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable. He gives power to the faint, and strengthens the powerless.
Even youths will faint and be weary, and the young will fall exhausted; but those who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint.

2 Corinthians 13.11-13
Finally, brothers and sisters, farewell. Put things in order, listen to my appeal, agree with one another, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you. Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the saints greet you.
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with all of you.

Matthew 28.16-20
Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. When they saw him, they worshipped him; but some doubted. And Jesus came and said to them, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.’

Post Communion
Almighty and eternal God,
you have revealed yourself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit,
and live and reign in the perfect unity of love:
hold us firm in this faith,
that we may know you in all your ways
and evermore rejoice in your eternal glory,
who are three Persons yet one God,
now and for ever.



Not wanting to reinvent the wheel - if you'd like to get a grip on the 'modes' stuff, take a look here:

Sunday, 26 May 2013

Some Trinitarian examples


Need to get a lastminute.com Trinity service sorted?

Here aree some threes that might assist (assuming you have Father, Son and Holy Spirit):

3 states of matter (solid, liquid and gas - water, ice and steam)
3 Billy Goats Gruff
3 Coins in a Fountain
3 French Hens (song)
3 Days of the Condor
3 Bones in the Human Ear
3 Miles in a League
3 Old King Cole's Fiddlers
3 Bronte sisters (Charlotte, Emily, Anne)
3 Goals in a Hat Trick (hockey)
3 Little Pigs
3 Sheets to the Wind
3 Times a Lady
3 Minute Egg
3 Piece Suit
3 Feet in a Yard
3 Books in Lord of the Rings
3 Ring Circus
3 Ships of Christopher Columbus
3 Sheets to the Wind
3 Books in a Trilogy
3 Witches in Macbeth
3 Heads on the Dog Cerberus
3 Little Kittens They Lost Their Mittens
3 Wheels on a Tricycle
3 Stooges
3 Blind Mice
3 Wise Men
3 Legged Race
3 Ring Circus
3 Wheeler
3 Point Landing
3 Cheers
3 Strikes & You're Out
3 Cornered Hat
3 Is A Crowd
3 Dimensional
3 Faces of Eve
3 Mile Island
3 Musketeers
3 R's
3rd time's a charm
3 Cheers
3 Bee Gees
3 Sides of a triangle
3 Capitals of South Africa
3 Races in the Triple Crown (horse racing)
3 Angles in a Triangle
3 Cousins of Donald Duck: Huey, Dewey and Louie
3 Dog Night
3 Ring Circus
3 Alous (Matty, Jesus and Felipe)
3 Kennedys (John, Robert and Teddy)
3 Trimesters in a Pregnancy
3 Flavors in Neapolitan Ice Cream
3 Bean Salad
3 To Get Ready
3 Stars in Orion’s belt
3 Parts To An Atom: protons, neutrons, and electrons.
3 Caloric Sources: Carbohydrates, Fats, Proteins
3 Quarks in a Baryon.
3 Primary hues in white light red, green, and blue.
3 Parts to the Personality: Id. Ego, super-ego
3 Earth Divisions: Core, Mantle, Crust.
3 Rock Formations: Igneous- Metamorphic- Sedimentary.
3 Times A Lady
3 Bags Full in Baa Baa Black Sheep
and three characters (Master, Dame  and little boy what lives down the lane)
3 Barleycorns in an Inch
3 Hands on a Clock (with the Seconds Hand)
3 Is a Crowd
3 King Lear's Daughters (Regan, Goneril and Cordelia)
3 Colors in the Flag
3 Legged Race
3 Men and a Baby (movie)
3 Minute Egg
3 Card Monte
3 Great Pyramids at Giza
3 on a Match
3 Point Basket
3 Miles in a League
3 Men in a Tub Rub a Dub Dub
3 Holes in a Bowling Ball
3 Balls on a Pawn Brokers Sign
3 Colours in a Set of Traffic Lights
3 Lines in a Haiku Poem
3 Life lines in Who Wants to be a Millionaire
3 Leaves on a Shamrock
3 Minutes in a Boxing Round
3 Scruples in a Dram
3 Teaspoons in a Tablespoon
3 Valves on a Trumpet
3 Shakes of a Tail
3 Megajoules in a Kilowatt Hour
3 Laws of Motion
3 Legs on a Milking Stool
3 Monastic Vows (Poverty, Chastity and Obedience)
3 Points for a Field Goal in (American) Football
3 Penny Opera
3 Ring Circus
3 Wise Men, Casper, Melchior, Balthasar
3 Tenors (Carreras, Domingo, Pavarotti)
3 Gorgons (Medusa, Stheno and Euryale)
3 Greek Fates Clotho, Lachesis, Atropos
3 Roman Graces: Aglaia, Euphrosyne, Thalia.
3 Parts to a Chimera: Lion Head, Goat Body, SnakeTail
3 Roman Furies Alecto, Megaera, Tisiphone
3 Greek Harpies: Aello, Ocypete, and Celaeno.
3 Times Peter denied Christ.
3 Body Types: Endomorph, Mesomorph, Ectomorph
3 Ring Notebooks
3 Notes in a Triad (chord)
3 Bases in a Codon
3 Domains: Archaea, Bacteria, and Eucaryota
3 Germ layers: Endoderm, Mesoderm, Ectoderm
3 Species of Homo: Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Homo sapiens
Cu*m Laude, Magna Cu*m Laude, and Suma Cu*m Laude
Frankencense, Gold and Myrrh
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
Hegel’s Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis
The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing but the Truth
Of the People, By the People, For the People
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness
Hear no Evil, See no Evil, Speak no Evil
Liberty, Equality, Fraternity
Veni, Vidi, Vici
Faith, Hope and Charity
Father, Son and Holy Ghost
Paper, Rock, Scissors
Peter Paul and Mary
Winken, Blinken, and Nod
Snap, Crack, and Pop
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Small, Medium and Large
Alvin, Simon and Theodore (chipmunks)
The Three Bears
Bad news comes in threes
Trouble comes in threes

Monday, 20 June 2011

Fathers' Day?

No, it's Father, Son and Holy Spirit Day!

I was stunned to hear one of the clergy I know explain how grateful they were for Fathers' Day falling on Trinity Sunday. This meant that they could put the 'knotty' issue of Father, Son and Holy Spirit aside and focus on just the Father.

Of course we don't do 'Mothers' Day' where I am, but we do 'Mothering Sunday'. The difference? One is about Mother church and the opportunity to renew vows and return to the place where you were baptised and the other raises the prices of flowers, makes booking a sensibly priced meal almost impossible and fill our shops with naff 'For Mum' presents that cost the earth and mean nothing and Father's Day is, sadly, no different!

The teaching on the Trinity is immensely important and one of the tests of error is to see how the church (or denomination) handles it. To put it aside for a piddling little commercial enterprise such as Father's Day (for we do Father's Day - One Father and should go no father than that!*) is to deny all that needs to be proclaimed and proclaims all that denies the Godhead in one single act. No wonder the person and their congregation are so poor, they have no teaching and little leadership (of the Christian type) it seems.

I was going to post this on Sunday but it was legalised madness (all day) and so by the time the last service was done (Taizé Communion - always a great way to wind down) and I got down to writing this I found that Bishop Inge (Worcester) had, apparently, made a move to adopt Fathers' Day. When I started reading for myself (always a good start) I initially found that the bloke had merely suggested that kid's write a prayer in their Dad's card. Good one, I thought, bringing God into the public domain in a Fathers' Day setting.

I was a little less impressed (but only a little) when I found the CofE had even given tips on how to customise a service for use on Father's Day. Mind you, how often does Father's Day fall on a Trinity Sunday, so I guess that usually it would be possible to use it and make a Sunday in Ordinary Time a little less ordinary. and so this sort of quelled my discomfort. But then the angel on the other shoulder (am I the only one to have an little angel and a little devil on opposite shoulders?) started talking to me about buying into the corporate world of junk, meaningless presents and rubbish such as bedevils Mothers' Day.

Of course, the CofE webiste given for the modifications to an 'ordinary service' (http://www.cofe.anglican.org/fathersday) didn't work so I'll never know whether the service was sacred, profane or merely more sentimental, yet worthless and meaningless, mush.

I've been and waded through (http://www.whatdadsadd.co.uk/) to see what the Mothers' Union and the CofE have got up to in this area.

For more about the CofE side, take a look at: http://www.churchofengland.org/media-centre/news/2010/06/pr5510.aspx

Funny thing was, I've realised that we never mentioned Fathers' Day during any of the service on Sunday, guess that was because as a Christian, EVERY DAY is Father's Day (and the Son's and the Holy Spirit's.

Yee Ha!

*I know someone will tell me it should have be 'further' but that wouldn't have worked anywhere near as well, wouyld it?

Friday, 25 March 2011

The Blasted Trinity

Trinity Sunday (June 19th this year) was once described to me as one of the 'most difficult ' Sundays in the church calendar. To be honest, I was a bit surprised at this because, after all, the Trinity was, well, the Trinity!

As I started studying I found that the Trinity was often viewed by people as something complex and difficult and that this was often compounded by the 'Holy Ghost' (God in a sheet?) understanding of same. Time went on and I found my self listening to sermons where God was green and had three leave (the Shamrock being the representation of the Trinity). In one place I found that the trinity was like the lady preaching in that she was a daughter, wife and teacher - three different people in the one body! Another place taught me that God was like three people who had decided to always agree and the three of them were so inseparable it was as if they were one (blimey - had they really been ordained for thirty years?). One of the stars of the Trinity parade told the assembled congregation that God was like a person with multiple personalities - each had their own character but resided in the one physical body. Now in my book MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder) is a pretty serious and severe condition (and not necessarily schizoid - I remember the lectures well as they pulled down many assumptions) and this sermon resides as one of the many cherries on the trinity Sunday cake.

The Trinity is a simple concept in that God (the Father) is the author of life and of our reconciliation (salvation) to Him. God (the Son) is the means by which that reconciliation with God is effected by the freewill submission to death on the Cross for each of us. God (the Holy Spirit) lives in us and guides us to maintain that relationship and live within the salvation reality that is open to us. Simples isn't is? You don't need to be a Meerkat to understand it!

One of the clever devices that comes from the early church is the little drawing that puts it simply and graphically so we lame brains can grasp it:


Of course we can get more into this and head for Nicea (325AD) and get to grips with the 'substance' (ousia) and we find that God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one ousios (homoousious), not similar (homoiousious), not different (heteroousios). One subtance, three distinct and separate wills - all in accord.

Simples or what?