Friday 26 February 2010

The State We're In

I had a telephone discussion with a fairly old lady yesterday. She'd rung to tell me that she wanted me to tell the bishop that should they ever conduct a 'gay wedding' in the parish church then she'd not only never enter the building again but she'd remove the bequest (£xxk) from her will as well.

Now although I suggested that she might like to tell the bishop that herself and gave her the telephone number of the area bishop she left me in no doubt that she had done her bit by telling me, the rest was my duty.

Following this I found myself in another discussion about the CofE and the state it's in. Having been asked about women's ministry and homosexuality and other stuff I gave the person asking this perspective, which I will share with you (I love dialogue), so are you sitting comfortably? Then I will begin:

Once upon a time there were some pointyheads (aka bishops) who realised that less people were coming to their churches and playing with them and God. They looked at the falling numbers of those who came to their CofE churches and started asking people what they didn't like about them and what they were doing. "If we know what the people don't like we can change what we do and then they will all come again and we will all be happy," they thought to themselves.

So they asked and the people's response was that the church didn't treat women well, the pointyhats and the members of the churches were all misogynists and they, the general public, didn't like this at all.

"I know what we'll do," said the senior pointyhead, "We'll ordain women!' So they went out and told all the people who didn't come to church, "Look at us, we support women's ministry - they're equal (or perhaps more than equal even)!" The people stopped and looked at the church and saw that this was indeed the case, but still they didn't come and not only that, but many of the people who used to come stopped coming as well. This made senior pointyhead and his friends very, very sad indeed, after all they'd done what everyone wanted and now even less people were coming. What could they do?

They went back to the people who didn't come to their houses and play and cried out, "Why, oh why aren't you coming to church? What is it that you don't like?" "We don't like the way you discriminate against gays," cried the world. So the pointyheads decided to rewrite two thousand years of Christian practice and ignore four thousand years of combined Judeo-Christian teaching and understanding because if they did, then surely they'd all flock back to church and everyone could be happy again and the parish shares would be paid up and God would be happy about everything, wouldn't he?

So it came to pass that senior clergy could be seen in civil partnerships and the bishops would even vote that 'gay marriage' in the form of blessing civil partnerships could take place in church buildings and then everyone would be happy, after all, there was nothing different in the church from everything that was going on outside it in the world. What on earth could there be to make the world uneasy now - what a great move forward to promoting church as 'safe' and 'acceptable' so that people would come and play again.

But instead, even more people who used to come to church left and still the world did not come and play. The buildings were even more empty and the church looked even less relevant to the point that people who were really clever and lived in wonderful Ivory towers in a land called 'Academe' spoke of living in a 'post Christian age'.

Sadly, as the church building became carpet warehouses and heritage centres, the senior pointyhead went out and asked the people outside the Canterbury heritage centre a question in one final attempt to understand what had happened. "We ordained women, we ordained homosexuals and even blessed what they did. We changed everything you told us you didn't like and yet you still didn't come. Why?"

The world looked at the poor forlorn figure and answered him, "We never intended to come! You merely asked us what we didn't like and we told you! Anyway, what does the church have to offer that the world doesn't? The church has worked so hard to look like us, why do we need to come in to experience what we already have, what do you have that's any different?"

Then, sadly, the senior pointyhead understood.

5 comments:

Upnorfjoel said...

All I can say is "brilliant" Rev. Vic!! You've outdone yourself with this short and smart little illustration to describe so succinctly our sad state of affairs.
Yet many would find it impossible even to learn from this.
Doesn't matter...I will still hang it on my wall...and pray.
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps people don't come to Church because they see us as having an "issue" over women and gays. Society has no such problem. The 'sad state of affairs' is our pre-occupation with matters which secularists regard as irrelevant. By implying that women should NOT be ordained, are you suggesting the Churches would be packed if we banned them?

Vic Van Den Bergh said...

Thank you for both comments. David, I think I may have written an answer to your point last nigh.

My aim was to explain the realities of the processes and I think your extrapolation and assessment is yours and yours alone. I don't think I said that the churches would be full, did I? The reality is that we have seen some great episodes of exodus marked by ASB, Women's Ordination and the homosexual issue - and I think this is due to the way we've done things and the reasoning behind it.

We don't seem to be theological, only trying to be popular - my point.

Thanks for visiting such a humble blog - we is indeed honoured.

And Joel, thanks for the comments - I use the blog to dialogue with the voices in my head (I am getting better apparently).

Pax guys,

V

Anonymous said...

I praise you for a simply brilliant description. I could not have done the same without a sense of hostility. Congrats!

SD said...

I think it's obvious that this story is not making claims about the rightness or wrongness of ordaining women or blessing same sex relationships, but deals with the processes behind those decisions. As Christ's church, our priority is to do what God wills, not what society wills. As the author points out, in an engaging fairy-tale ('parable') style, this order often seems to be reversed.

It's an old proverb which still stands today, "the end does not justify the means'. Wherever we stand on the issues quoted, we must ensure that our processes are filled with Godly integrity.