Having got back from dropping children off at school I returned to a little message that begins:
"Vic, it's all well and good you writing what you have but there are times when those who are right must act forcefully against those who would engage in . . . . [yawn]"
I haven't continued because it's pretty boring and to be honest, the next bit of the message could have so easily continued with any one of the disparaging nouns we assign to those who take opposing views to us. Why don't you pick your word from the list below (or use one of your own favourites):
abortion, bigotry, capitalism, condemnation, euthanasia, feminism, fundamentalism, homosexuality, homophobia, liberalism, misogyny, racism, etc.
Now, I don't mind people having their views but have to ask how we express them. If it's by engaging in dialogue, praying about the situation and those who(in our eyes) are wrong, if it's by education and engaging people then it's O.K. in my book.
But if it's about slandering or engaging in ad hominem, if we seek to traduce, ridicule or disgrace people then we are doing it wrong!
If we send images to people to press our point or if we publish addresses and telephone number so others can be harried, then we are wrong.
If we put spin onto a topic so that what we say is untrue - this too is wrong.
We must act decisively rather than forcefully for the weapons of our warfare are not those of the world (i.e. not carnal).
A quick revision of 2 Corinthians 10:
"By the meekness and gentleness of Christ, I appeal to you - I, Paul, who am “timid” when face to face with you, but “bold” when away! I beg you that when I come I may not have to be as bold as I expect to be toward some people who think that we live by the standards of this world.
For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world.
On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.
You are looking only on the surface of things. If anyone is confident that he belongs to Christ, he should consider again that we belong to Christ just as much as he. For even if I boast somewhat freely about the authority the Lord gave us for building you up rather than pulling you down, I will not be ashamed of it. I do not want to seem to be trying to frighten you with my letters. For some say, “His letters are weighty and forceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his speaking amounts to nothing.” Such people should realise that what we are in our letters when we are absent, we will be in our actions when we are present.
We do not dare to classify or compare ourselves with some who commend themselves. When they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are not wise. We, however, will not boast beyond proper limits, but will confine our boasting to the field God has assigned to us, a field that reaches even to you. We are not going too far in our boasting, as would be the case if we had not come to you, for we did get as far as you with the gospel of Christ. Neither do we go beyond our limits by boasting of work done by others. Our hope is that, as your faith continues to grow, our area of activity among you will greatly expand, so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. For we do not want to boast about work already done in another man’s territory. But, “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.” For it is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends."
3 comments:
Vic,
I have maintained a quite space while you have posted this far.
I love the Corinthians text you quote:
"For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world".
The weapons we fight with are surely prayer, reflection, example and treat others as we would be treated. Looking after the weakest and most deprived without discrimination. Seeing Jesus in every face of man or women, whoever they are and at whatever place they are at.
But most of all love - as we are commanded. To love others as Jesus loved us.
This is the only way that I can see any divisions being overcome, without resort to rhetoric and slander. Perhaps tolerance, without judgment would also help.
I know that I am a completely imperfect person to say this, but I hope and aspire to live like this and when I fall below the standard I repent and try again.
Surely all we can do is the best we can ourselves and hope that others will follow our lead.
Worth noting this is not a primarily "pacifist" passage, however. The bolded quote is immediately followed by:
"On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete."
and later,
"Such people should realise that what we are in our letters when we are absent, we will be in our actions when we are present."
Patient and prayerful is good and appropriate, but Paul is also saying to those within the church "Don't push it. I've been patient til now so that you may repent, but if you will not then the time for kicking heads will come, and soon!".
The contrast isn't passive vs argumentative: it's "worldly impressiveness" vs "God's truth". Vic is right in saying we shouldn't stoop to worldly means of fighting for truth, but I don't think one can or should go from there to not fighting.
Totall Agree Andrew - we must stand for that which we believe to be right. That which we do not do in faith is sin and we need to ensure that we, and others, engage in the right manner, which is not as the world contends but as God directs.
thanks for the post,
V
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